Caught something!

[Hadrian]

Originally Posted by Rockyhardo Don't believe me? Go research it, it's what the internet is for.

"I know it's true cause I read it on the internet" is the birdsong of idiots!

[Rockyhardo]

If you're using that as a defense, it's a very poor one.

Let's totally disregard the fact I mentioned the following.

I know this from common knowledge, SEX ED + I volunteered at a community health centre. You people need to go educate yourselves, your ignorance is very scary.

I only offered the internet as a source because there is PLENTY of reliable and LEGIT information available to the public. Want me to list the many official doctor/health sites and sources? I can.

Don't be a moron.

[Hadrian]

Originally Posted by Rockyhardo If you're using that as a defense, it's a very poor one. Let's totally disregard the fact I mentioned the following. I only offered the internet as a source because there is PLENTY of reliable and LEGIT information available to the public. Want me to list the many official doctor/health sites and sources? I can. Don't be a moron.

You sir are a mental midget and obviously of limited intellect, the heath care profession actually decry the over use of internet study in both diagnosis and treatment as well as information gathering by the general public. That is fact!

Furthermore, you bombastic twit I never decried a word you said regarding risks associated with this "hobby" I simply stated what heath care professionals not "volunteers" have stated time and time again.

You sir are an obviously a mouth breathing troglodyte so engaging you in further discussion would be futile.

[Hadrian]

Don't bother replying I have you on ignore, I don't argue with idiots!

[Rockyhardo]

A mouth breathing troglodyte? Really?

OBVIOUSLY doctors do not want you using the internet if you are trying to DIAGNOSE what you may or may not have. That's what doctor appointments are for?
But such info: The risk of contagion/reducing the risks/symptoms and etc are all openly available and reliable. That is all I was stating. I do not understand why you are trying to argue, your few spats here and there have been utterly pointless and empty.

Ease off and just put down the thesaurus!

[jimmy]

No thesaurus for Hadrian, he's a pretty witty and wordy guy. Maybe its all the song writing?

You know Rocky', I don't think its so much what your saying, its more how you barged in and said it. Whether your right or not (and you are) you have basically burst onto an sexual review board, stated the obvious, and insulted a healthy segment of the board.

Welcome to the board, but you may want to tone it down least you become "that guy".

[JohnFK]

Originally Posted by Rockyhardo Anyone who thinks they can't catch an STD/STI through unprotected oral sex AKA BBBJ is simply the most retarded human being EVER. The list is as follows. * chlamydia * gonorrhoea * genital herpes * syphilis * HIV * hepatitis A, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C * genital warts * Human papillomavirus * Thrush aka yeast infection. Not to mention bacterial infections. Don't believe me? Go research it, it's what the internet is for. BASICALLY, anything you can get from UNPROTECTED SEX, you can get VIA BBBJ or DATY. You are only safe if you make sure to wear a condom. On ladies, there is such thing as a dental dam that can be placed over the vagina. Think about it. If she is giving you a BBBJ than she is giving every other guy a BBBJ. If he is asking you for a BBBJ ladies, then he probably receives BBBJ's from tons of other ladies (reread the top). SAME THING GOES FOR DATY. It's disgusting, it's dirty, and the risk is just so absurd. I don't understand why it's requested or offered. (Yes, I have hard the "I can't get it up with a condom on" excuse from a very safe SP friend.) So, if you've been getting BBBJ, offering. Or getting DATY, or offering. Go get yourself checked. You have something. I know this from common knowledge, SEX ED + I volunteered at a community health centre. You people need to go educate yourselves, your ignorance is very scary.

Yes, one can catch something via BBBJ but even a doctor I saw at a clinic said it was rare, however, he was probably speaking about the general population and not SPs or hobbyists where the risk of exposure is probably greater, although there's the counter-argument that professionals get tested more often.

[Turbosteve]

Originally Posted by Rockyhardo Anyone who thinks they can't catch an STD/STI through unprotected oral sex AKA BBBJ is simply the most retarded human being EVER. The list is as follows. * chlamydia * gonorrhoea * genital herpes * syphilis * HIV * hepatitis A, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C * genital warts * Human papillomavirus * Thrush aka yeast infection. Not to mention bacterial infections. Don't believe me? Go research it, it's what the internet is for. BASICALLY, anything you can get from UNPROTECTED SEX, you can get VIA BBBJ or DATY. You are only safe if you make sure to wear a condom. On ladies, there is such thing as a dental dam that can be placed over the vagina. Think about it. If she is giving you a BBBJ than she is giving every other guy a BBBJ. If he is asking you for a BBBJ ladies, then he probably receives BBBJ's from tons of other ladies (reread the top). SAME THING GOES FOR DATY. It's disgusting, it's dirty, and the risk is just so absurd. I don't understand why it's requested or offered. (Yes, I have hard the "I can't get it up with a condom on" excuse from a very safe SP friend.) So, if you've been getting BBBJ, offering. Or getting DATY, or offering. Go get yourself checked. You have something. I know this from common knowledge, SEX ED + I volunteered at a community health centre. You people need to go educate yourselves, your ignorance is very scary.

WOOOHOOO thank you dr.phill

[Sheek]

Originally Posted by Rockyhardo Anyone who thinks they can't catch an STD/STI through unprotected oral sex AKA BBBJ is simply the most retarded human being EVER. The list is as follows. * chlamydia * gonorrhoea * genital herpes * syphilis * HIV * hepatitis A, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C * genital warts * Human papillomavirus * Thrush aka yeast infection. Not to mention bacterial infections. Don't believe me? Go research it, it's what the internet is for. BASICALLY, anything you can get from UNPROTECTED SEX, you can get VIA BBBJ or DATY. You are only safe if you make sure to wear a condom. On ladies, there is such thing as a dental dam that can be placed over the vagina. Think about it. If she is giving you a BBBJ than she is giving every other guy a BBBJ. If he is asking you for a BBBJ ladies, then he probably receives BBBJ's from tons of other ladies (reread the top). SAME THING GOES FOR DATY. It's disgusting, it's dirty, and the risk is just so absurd. I don't understand why it's requested or offered. (Yes, I have hard the "I can't get it up with a condom on" excuse from a very safe SP friend.) So, if you've been getting BBBJ, offering. Or getting DATY, or offering. Go get yourself checked. You have something. I know this from common knowledge, SEX ED + I volunteered at a community health centre. You people need to go educate yourselves, your ignorance is very scary.

Unfortunately, you are the ignorant one. The question of STD's gets raised on every board and ends up in a tailspin of misinformation and speculation. It comes down to who your sources are and what your bias is.

FOR EXAMPLE, the risk of getting HIV from BBBJ has been widely acknowledged as EXTREMELY LOW. I am friends with one of the most famous HIV doctors in the world and even he says that there is no proof that HIV is transmitted through bbbj.

Additionally, the risk of getting something, anything from bbbj amongst STRAIGHT MEN is REASONABLY LOW. Amongst gay men or bi men or men who fuck trannies on the down low, BBBJ is actually a HIGH RISK situation (but not for HIV), which is why most trannies (not all) use condoms for blowjobs. Those who don't are taking quite a risk.

I personally know half a dozen women in the civilian world who have herpes, and plenty of men don't realize that if a woman is "shedding" when they fuck her/get a bbbj, they have about a 1-10% risk of getting herpes. Herpes can be really shitty, and it's for life baby. Girls in the business obviously a different situation, but same risk. So if you're getting a bbbj from a girl in the biz who has herpes, AND she's shedding, your risk skyrockets. Kind of makes your dick limp, no?

If you like to rim girls as I do now and then, you open yourself up to all kinds of things from not to serious to can be serious, but if you're reasonably on top of your own health, much of it can be taken care of through diet, nutrition and drugs.

The risk for straight men seeing girls who they themselves do not have shit (if they know that--they may not hence risk skyrockets) and getting bbbj and getting something is RELATIVELY LOW. But that doesn't mean there isn't risk, especially with providers that are seen a ton of men and taking their own risks beyond bbbj.

You can get herpes, for example, even with a rubber on, although of course wearing one reduces the risk of both herpes itself and other stuff. Again, varying degrees of risk.

I am only one person, but most hobbyists like me who have been in the game for 10+, assuming they don't get involved in OTHER high risk behaviours, have rarely has problems from getting a BBBJ. Sadly, the woman is at much higher risk. You CAN get all of the above except HIV from BBBj, but what is your real risk? It really depends on all the parties involved and from there you get a risk number. It is and has been true that every day in Canada thousands of men are getting bbbj's from providers and very few cases of serious shit are reported in threads. OF COURSE many men will not report this on the boards from lots of reasons, but generally the risks from bbbj have never been documented. Not saying they don't exist, but we're all living according to odds that favor us.

Most men draw the line at bbbj as their acceptable form of risk, when they consider all things. BUT THAT MAY CHANGE now that there is an ever expanding universe of people fucking the same 20 providers who become famous in ten minutes on the boards. AND tons of men are trying out trannies for the first time, and and expecting that there odds of getting anything from bbbj is the same as with women. Sadly SO NOT THE CASE. Don't suck a trannies dick or let her/him suck yours without a rubber!!!

There is a very disturbing trend on other boards to talk openly about bareback, and many, many men are jumping hysterically on that bandwagon, and the results will be tragic. Internet porn and hookers at the touch of a mouse are making men crazy, and now you have bareback lists traded like candy. Ugly stuff. Thrilling only if you are seriously abstracted.

Bottom line is find sources you trust, from institutional down to anecdotal--in that order.